+1 for TinkerPop 3.3

Robert Dale

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Jason Plurad <plu...@...> wrote:

TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is
currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.

sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing
Travis CI.

TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of
it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala
2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10)
released in March 2016.

Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in
production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open
for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with
the older versions.

I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.

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Are there any other incompatible changes from TinkerPop 3.2.x to 3.3?

Thanks,

Jerry

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Robert Dale wrote:
> +1 for TinkerPop 3.3
>
> Robert Dale
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Jason Plurad wrote:
>>
>> TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is
>> currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.
>>
>> sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing
>> Travis CI.
>>
>> TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of
>> it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala
>> 2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10)
>> released in March 2016.
>>
>> Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in
>> production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open
>> for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with
>> the older versions.
>>
>> I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.
>>
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TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.

sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing Travis CI.

TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala 2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10) released in March 2016.

Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with the older versions.

I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.

As a user, we don't use Spark but are very excited for the new CQL and ES 5.x backends. I didn't see anything in the TP3.3 release notes that would affect us negatively.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-7, Jason Plurad wrote:

TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.

sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing Travis CI.

TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala 2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10) released in March 2016.

Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with the older versions.

I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.

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TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.

sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing Travis CI.

TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala 2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10) released in March 2016.

Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with the older versions.

I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.

I wouldn't mind a 0.2.x release train based on tinkerpop 3.2.x.  Thus release 0.2.0 with 3.2.6.   But I think there should be a 0.3.x train and a 0.3.0-SNAPSHOT with tinkerpop 3.3.0. I also think let 0.1.x die unless someone really wants to own that.

Then 0.2.x gets bug fixes and non-breaking features/changes.

0.3.x gets 0.2.x changes + breaking features/changes

Robert Dale

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:15 AM, sjudeng <s...@...> wrote:

I think it depends on how soon we want to release 0.2.0. I think we should either release 0.2.0 in the near term with TinkerPop 3.2.6 or merge the update to TinkerPop 3.3.0 and then delay the 0.2.0 release to allow time for community testing. My personal preference is to release 0.2.0 as soon as possible with TinkerPop 3.2.6.

We're benefiting greatly from a large user community that has been willing/forced to do extensive testing/production work off master/0.2.0-SNAPSHOT. Based on the current feedback in lists/issues it appears to me that we're really pretty stable right now and it would be a good time to release (with some merges of minor pending PRs). That is we're no longer seeing issues like "janusgraph.sh isn't starting" or "I can't update my existing Titan DB" (right?). The issues are now mostly more about new features.

If we were to bump to TinkerPop 3.3.0 (and those who follow TinkerPop more closely will correct me if I'm wrong here) I think the changes are non-trivial (certainly not as trivial as going from 3.2.4->3.2.5->3.2.6) and they should be out on master/snapshots for awhile and give everyone a chance to try them out before releasing. I don't know how much time would be necessary, but I'm thinking at least a month given our velocity (the 0.2.x changes have been out for 6 months). I just don't think a stable release is the time for testing.


On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 11:19:41 AM UTC-5, Jason Plurad wrote:

TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.

sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing Travis CI.

TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala 2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10) released in March 2016.

Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with the older versions.

I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.

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This sounds good to me, especially if we can move toward a very near term
0.2.0 release. After that we can go immediately to TinkerPop 3.3.0 on master
and start working towards a 0.3.0 release once we've done more testing and a
snapshot release or two have gone out for community evaluation. I'd even be
willing to go further and say that after the 0.2.0 release the 0.2.x branch
would only need to get bug fixes. Given our state as a development community
and the unresolved merge/commit flow question I think we're better
positioned at this point to move forward with development just on master.

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 9:33:02 AM UTC-5, Robert Dale wrote:

I wouldn't mind a 0.2.x release train based on tinkerpop 3.2.x. Thus
release 0.2.0 with 3.2.6. But I think there should be a 0.3.x train and a
0.3.0-SNAPSHOT with tinkerpop 3.3.0. I also think let 0.1.x die unless
someone really wants to own that.

Then 0.2.x gets bug fixes and non-breaking features/changes.
0.3.x gets 0.2.x changes + breaking features/changes


Robert Dale

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:15 AM, sjudeng <s...@...> wrote:

I think it depends on how soon we want to release 0.2.0. I think we
should either release 0.2.0 in the near term with TinkerPop 3.2.6 or merge
the update to TinkerPop 3.3.0 and then delay the 0.2.0 release to allow time
for community testing. My personal preference is to release 0.2.0 as soon as
possible with TinkerPop 3.2.6.

We're benefiting greatly from a large user community that has been
willing/forced to do extensive testing/production work off
master/0.2.0-SNAPSHOT. Based on the current feedback in lists/issues it
appears to me that we're really pretty stable right now and it would be a
good time to release (with some merges of minor pending PRs). That is we're
no longer seeing issues like "janusgraph.sh isn't starting" or "I can't
update my existing Titan DB" (right?). The issues are now mostly more about
new features.

If we were to bump to TinkerPop 3.3.0 (and those who follow TinkerPop
more closely will correct me if I'm wrong here) I think the changes are
non-trivial (certainly not as trivial as going from 3.2.4->3.2.5->3.2.6) and
they should be out on master/snapshots for awhile and give everyone a chance
to try them out before releasing. I don't know how much time would be
necessary, but I'm thinking at least a month given our velocity (the 0.2.x
changes have been out for 6 months). I just don't think a stable release is
the time for testing.


On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 11:19:41 AM UTC-5, Jason Plurad wrote:

TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is
currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.

sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing
Travis CI.

TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of
it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala
2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10)
released in March 2016.

Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in
production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open
for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with
the older versions.

I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.

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I second the idea to have the current 0.2.0 release with the TinkerPop
3.2.6, for the sake of avoiding too many (incompatible) moving parts.
Then TinkerPop 3.3 in master with a planned JanusGraph 0.3 release
soon after.
But my thinking is not strong and can go either way.

Thanks,

Jerry

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:47 AM, sjudeng wrote:
> This sounds good to me, especially if we can move toward a very near term
> 0.2.0 release. After that we can go immediately to TinkerPop 3.3.0 on master
> and start working towards a 0.3.0 release once we've done more testing and a
> snapshot release or two have gone out for community evaluation. I'd even be
> willing to go further and say that after the 0.2.0 release the 0.2.x branch
> would only need to get bug fixes. Given our state as a development community
> and the unresolved merge/commit flow question I think we're better
> positioned at this point to move forward with development just on master.
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 9:33:02 AM UTC-5, Robert Dale wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't mind a 0.2.x release train based on tinkerpop 3.2.x.  Thus
>> release 0.2.0 with 3.2.6.   But I think there should be a 0.3.x train and a
>> 0.3.0-SNAPSHOT with tinkerpop 3.3.0. I also think let 0.1.x die unless
>> someone really wants to own that.
>>
>> Then 0.2.x gets bug fixes and non-breaking features/changes.
>> 0.3.x gets 0.2.x changes + breaking features/changes
>>
>>
>> Robert Dale
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:15 AM, sjudeng wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it depends on how soon we want to release 0.2.0. I think we
>>> should either release 0.2.0 in the near term with TinkerPop 3.2.6 or merge
>>> the update to TinkerPop 3.3.0 and then delay the 0.2.0 release to allow time
>>> for community testing. My personal preference is to release 0.2.0 as soon as
>>> possible with TinkerPop 3.2.6.
>>>
>>> We're benefiting greatly from a large user community that has been
>>> willing/forced to do extensive testing/production work off
>>> master/0.2.0-SNAPSHOT. Based on the current feedback in lists/issues it
>>> appears to me that we're really pretty stable right now and it would be a
>>> good time to release (with some merges of minor pending PRs). That is we're
>>> no longer seeing issues like "janusgraph.sh isn't starting" or "I can't
>>> update my existing Titan DB" (right?). The issues are now mostly more about
>>> new features.
>>>
>>> If we were to bump to TinkerPop 3.3.0 (and those who follow TinkerPop
>>> more closely will correct me if I'm wrong here) I think the changes are
>>> non-trivial (certainly not as trivial as going from 3.2.4->3.2.5->3.2.6) and
>>> they should be out on master/snapshots for awhile and give everyone a chance
>>> to try them out before releasing. I don't know how much time would be
>>> necessary, but I'm thinking at least a month given our velocity (the 0.2.x
>>> changes have been out for 6 months). I just don't think a stable release is
>>> the time for testing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 11:19:41 AM UTC-5, Jason Plurad wrote:
>>>>
>>>> TinkerPop 3.3.0 is released, TinkerPop 3.2.6 also. JanusGraph master is
>>>> currently at TinkerPop 3.2.6.
>>>>
>>>> sjudeng has a pull request open for TP 3.3 support, and it is passing
>>>> Travis CI.
>>>>
>>>> TinkerPop 3.3 is the latest, greatest release. The most notable part of
>>>> it, as far as dependencies are concerned, is that it brings Spark 2.2 (Scala
>>>> 2.11) support. This is a big jump forward from Spark 1.6.1 (Scala 2.10)
>>>> released in March 2016.
>>>>
>>>> Any reason to hold up from moving forward with TP 3.3? Any users in
>>>> production out there relying on Spark 1.6.1? The 0.1 branch is still open
>>>> for fixes, so that could be the answer for people that want to stick with
>>>> the older versions.
>>>>
>>>> I'm +1 for moving to TinkerPop 3.3.
>>>
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I also believe we have too many in flight issues of various size. Lets stick with to 3.2.6 for the 0.2.0 release. I also agree with the support mode described above in re content of 0.1.x 0.2.x and 0.3.x

I believe we have a consensus on this.
JanusGraph 0.2.0 will use Apache TinkerPop 3.2.6.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 2:47:05 PM UTC-4, Alexander Patrikalakis wrote:

I also believe we have too many in flight issues of various size. Lets stick with to 3.2.6 for the 0.2.0 release. I also agree with the support mode described above in re content of 0.1.x 0.2.x and 0.3.x