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Janus Graph as replace for NOSQL database in Web Applications for non-bulk randomly generated data

Jane <shabs...@...>
 

Can I/Has anyone use Janus Graph as a replacement for NOSQL databases in web applications? I'm talking about high throughput on both reads and writes (non-bulk, randomly generated by user traffic). A lot of examples that are getting tossed around here are just a bunch of people exporting their data from somewhere else and bulk importing it into Janus Graph for analysis. 

It seems that a blocking issue for me with Janus Graph is that for it to remotely even perform decently it requires an index and schema to be pre-generated for the data set. With my use case it is simply not possible to determine everything that a user might want to possibly upload to the database and hence why we use a NOSQL database. However, the data is also highly relational and would benefit from being stored in a graph database. 

Has anyone gotten over this hurdle or have any advice? 
Robert Dale <rob...@...>
 

You could keep your schema-less data in your existing NoSQL db and then add a graph database for storing relations.

Or try a multi-model graph database. There are several listed here http://tinkerpop.apache.org/#graph-systems

There's no one right way to do it.

Robert Dale

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Jane <shabs...@...> wrote:
Can I/Has anyone use Janus Graph as a replacement for NOSQL databases in web applications? I'm talking about high throughput on both reads and writes (non-bulk, randomly generated by user traffic). A lot of examples that are getting tossed around here are just a bunch of people exporting their data from somewhere else and bulk importing it into Janus Graph for analysis. 

It seems that a blocking issue for me with Janus Graph is that for it to remotely even perform decently it requires an index and schema to be pre-generated for the data set. With my use case it is simply not possible to determine everything that a user might want to possibly upload to the database and hence why we use a NOSQL database. However, the data is also highly relational and would benefit from being stored in a graph database. 

Has anyone gotten over this hurdle or have any advice? 

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Jane <shabs...@...>
 

So by separating the data into two different databases, traversals on vertex properties would not be possible without external look ups. 

Would there be any specific optimizations that I could possibly do since I would like to also be able to use OLAP part of Janus. 


On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 3:29:16 PM UTC-4, Robert Dale wrote:
You could keep your schema-less data in your existing NoSQL db and then add a graph database for storing relations.

Or try a multi-model graph database. There are several listed here http://tinkerpop.apache.org/#graph-systems

There's no one right way to do it.

Robert Dale

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Jane <sh...@...> wrote:
Can I/Has anyone use Janus Graph as a replacement for NOSQL databases in web applications? I'm talking about high throughput on both reads and writes (non-bulk, randomly generated by user traffic). A lot of examples that are getting tossed around here are just a bunch of people exporting their data from somewhere else and bulk importing it into Janus Graph for analysis. 

It seems that a blocking issue for me with Janus Graph is that for it to remotely even perform decently it requires an index and schema to be pre-generated for the data set. With my use case it is simply not possible to determine everything that a user might want to possibly upload to the database and hence why we use a NOSQL database. However, the data is also highly relational and would benefit from being stored in a graph database. 

Has anyone gotten over this hurdle or have any advice? 

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